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		<title>By: Selma</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenkruiser.com/2009/10/31/the-real-story-behind-newt-dedes-breakup/comment-page-1/#comment-2802</link>
		<dc:creator>Selma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a voter in the 23rd District, and a supporter of Dede Scozzafava, I&#039;m very disappointed with her withdrawal.  I am a registered Republican but not overly conservative, and with Dede out I&#039;m having a hard time with either of the other candidates.

This race is not all about what&#039;s best for you and the rest of the US (though my thoughts on that would still result in a vote for Dede), but as OUR representative from this 23rd District, OUR local issues are a big deal to me.

Hoffman is an idiot who knows nothing about our issues, as was proven in the single debate he bothered to attend, because he doesn&#039;t even live in our district.  Should I vote for him just because he&#039;s a conservative republican regardless of the fact that I think he has absolutely no substance and would do nothing to help this district?

I now find myself wondering if I&#039;ll even vote, as the thought of pulling the lever for either Hoffman or Owens makes my stomach turn, but at this point I&#039;m thinking I&#039;d rather see Owens win this election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a voter in the 23rd District, and a supporter of Dede Scozzafava, I&#8217;m very disappointed with her withdrawal.  I am a registered Republican but not overly conservative, and with Dede out I&#8217;m having a hard time with either of the other candidates.</p>
<p>This race is not all about what&#8217;s best for you and the rest of the US (though my thoughts on that would still result in a vote for Dede), but as OUR representative from this 23rd District, OUR local issues are a big deal to me.</p>
<p>Hoffman is an idiot who knows nothing about our issues, as was proven in the single debate he bothered to attend, because he doesn&#8217;t even live in our district.  Should I vote for him just because he&#8217;s a conservative republican regardless of the fact that I think he has absolutely no substance and would do nothing to help this district?</p>
<p>I now find myself wondering if I&#8217;ll even vote, as the thought of pulling the lever for either Hoffman or Owens makes my stomach turn, but at this point I&#8217;m thinking I&#8217;d rather see Owens win this election.</p>
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		<title>By: Hoffman/Scozzafava-Let The Spin Begin &#124; Stephen Kruiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoffman/Scozzafava-Let The Spin Begin &#124; Stephen Kruiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, another Pharisaical-Ayatollah telling the Tea Party movement that they have to vote Republican if they want to win. This despite the evidence of the Hoffman third party insurgency. You preach in the face of contrary evidence.

In my city we have a flourishing Tea Party movement not committed in any way to the GOP. Zero! We refuse to take your advice and fully endorse someone simply because they happen to be a GOP member as we understand that is what got us in this mess to begin with. Principles first, party second.

You need to rethink attacking members of the movement who do not agree with your desire to further enrich the corrupt GOP. We now have the evidence that conservatives can compete without the GOP. THAT is the new reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, another Pharisaical-Ayatollah telling the Tea Party movement that they have to vote Republican if they want to win. This despite the evidence of the Hoffman third party insurgency. You preach in the face of contrary evidence.</p>
<p>In my city we have a flourishing Tea Party movement not committed in any way to the GOP. Zero! We refuse to take your advice and fully endorse someone simply because they happen to be a GOP member as we understand that is what got us in this mess to begin with. Principles first, party second.</p>
<p>You need to rethink attacking members of the movement who do not agree with your desire to further enrich the corrupt GOP. We now have the evidence that conservatives can compete without the GOP. THAT is the new reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon 1:50</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon 1:50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The momentum arrow on the Right runs from the ground up now.&quot;

This may be a concept the Republican elite has a real problem with, but hopefully, as the momentum becomes more dynamic and the voices a bit louder and more consistent, some candidates will feel that they will have support if they voice more hard-line conservative positions.

I hope!

Nice piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The momentum arrow on the Right runs from the ground up now.&#8221;</p>
<p>This may be a concept the Republican elite has a real problem with, but hopefully, as the momentum becomes more dynamic and the voices a bit louder and more consistent, some candidates will feel that they will have support if they voice more hard-line conservative positions.</p>
<p>I hope!</p>
<p>Nice piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Knemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;conservatives must be abandoned in the name of “electability”.&quot;

Not in NY-23, but elsewhere. The problem is that instead of a spectrum; instead, you need two(+) more or less distinct *kinds* of Republican. That&#039;s what the 3-leg chair was; that&#039;s what the Democrats have now (there aren&#039;t many Democrats who position themselves between Blue Dogs and the lefties; instead, they whole party is about 1:3 between them).

Even in all of *upstate New York*, let alone the west and northeast, Hoffman wouldn&#039;t win. Someone between Hoffman and Scozzafava would and should run and win as a Republican elsewhere. This was the right result here; let&#039;s see some flexibility on the other side in districts that legitimately *aren&#039;t* winnable by anyone at or to the right of the center of the *Republican party itself.*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;conservatives must be abandoned in the name of “electability”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not in NY-23, but elsewhere. The problem is that instead of a spectrum; instead, you need two(+) more or less distinct *kinds* of Republican. That&#8217;s what the 3-leg chair was; that&#8217;s what the Democrats have now (there aren&#8217;t many Democrats who position themselves between Blue Dogs and the lefties; instead, they whole party is about 1:3 between them).</p>
<p>Even in all of *upstate New York*, let alone the west and northeast, Hoffman wouldn&#8217;t win. Someone between Hoffman and Scozzafava would and should run and win as a Republican elsewhere. This was the right result here; let&#8217;s see some flexibility on the other side in districts that legitimately *aren&#8217;t* winnable by anyone at or to the right of the center of the *Republican party itself.*</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paulsur-Enjoy your tantrum. My conservative credentials are more than solid and consistent over a long period of time. A conservative takeover of the GOP is the quickest way for conservatives to be in power, that&#039;s a political reality. And also what I&#039;m interested in. Third parties are vanity nonsense. If I, like you, simply wanted to throw an ideological fit and never win elections, I&#039;d be a registered Libertarian. The difference between you and me is that I&#039;m willing to do the tedious, difficult work of unseating the moderates in the GOP and helping conservatives become the power brokers in the party. The entire point of this post was to point out that this shift is happening now and happening much quicker than most people (you among them, it would appear) comprehend. I&#039;ve been involved in the Tea Party movement since it was an idea in February and not a movement. I&#039;ve spent money, time and effort on it and have been doing long before there were any crowds involved.

You&#039;re more than welcome to disagree with me on anything but don&#039;t question my conservative principles, commitment or credibility because I&#039;ll shove a boat load of evidence to the contrary down your throat. 

I deal with political realities and look for ways to make the reality more conservative. You seem to be content with pitching a hissy fit in an echo chamber. 

But we&#039;ll let even you come along when we&#039;re done shaking things up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulsur-Enjoy your tantrum. My conservative credentials are more than solid and consistent over a long period of time. A conservative takeover of the GOP is the quickest way for conservatives to be in power, that&#8217;s a political reality. And also what I&#8217;m interested in. Third parties are vanity nonsense. If I, like you, simply wanted to throw an ideological fit and never win elections, I&#8217;d be a registered Libertarian. The difference between you and me is that I&#8217;m willing to do the tedious, difficult work of unseating the moderates in the GOP and helping conservatives become the power brokers in the party. The entire point of this post was to point out that this shift is happening now and happening much quicker than most people (you among them, it would appear) comprehend. I&#8217;ve been involved in the Tea Party movement since it was an idea in February and not a movement. I&#8217;ve spent money, time and effort on it and have been doing long before there were any crowds involved.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re more than welcome to disagree with me on anything but don&#8217;t question my conservative principles, commitment or credibility because I&#8217;ll shove a boat load of evidence to the contrary down your throat. </p>
<p>I deal with political realities and look for ways to make the reality more conservative. You seem to be content with pitching a hissy fit in an echo chamber. </p>
<p>But we&#8217;ll let even you come along when we&#8217;re done shaking things up.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulsur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulsur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are one of them. You think all conservatives must be republican. You still think in two party terms. I don&#039;t like you, politically speaking, because you think you know me and my kind. You think we are just disaffected republicans. We never were. How many times do we have to say it to you? Stop trying to steal our movement! We are the real tea party people. We are the real grass roots movement. We don&#039;t care if the republican party succeeds or does not. We have had it with two parties that can neither effectively represent our views. We are backing real candidates who have no true party allegiance. Oh, they may run in your party or the democrat party, or the constitution party, or the libertarian party. That does not matter to us. What matters is that they share our core values, and we mean more to them then their damned ole party. You suck for thinking you and us are the same, and that our movement is somehow your movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are one of them. You think all conservatives must be republican. You still think in two party terms. I don&#8217;t like you, politically speaking, because you think you know me and my kind. You think we are just disaffected republicans. We never were. How many times do we have to say it to you? Stop trying to steal our movement! We are the real tea party people. We are the real grass roots movement. We don&#8217;t care if the republican party succeeds or does not. We have had it with two parties that can neither effectively represent our views. We are backing real candidates who have no true party allegiance. Oh, they may run in your party or the democrat party, or the constitution party, or the libertarian party. That does not matter to us. What matters is that they share our core values, and we mean more to them then their damned ole party. You suck for thinking you and us are the same, and that our movement is somehow your movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Poling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Poling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone should be kicked out of the Republican party for being too moderate. BUT one should be denied leadership in the GOP if one is unable/unwilling to clearly articulate why Joe-random-voter should be a Republican. If you&#039;re Joe-Random-Vermonter, those reasons may involve fiscal matters. If you&#039;re Joe-Random-Alabaman, those reasons may involve matters of traditional morality.

How can the national party articulate reasons to be GOP in terms appealing to both Vermonter and Alabaman? Well, if Government leaves other institutions to solve some societal problems, it won&#039;t spend money and it won&#039;t contradict anyone&#039;s moral convictions by what it&#039;s not doing. 

The Tea Partiers, like Perotistas, Reaganites before them, primarily advocate smaller government. It might make sense for the GOP to cultivate leaders that can articulate why this is better than the road to serfdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone should be kicked out of the Republican party for being too moderate. BUT one should be denied leadership in the GOP if one is unable/unwilling to clearly articulate why Joe-random-voter should be a Republican. If you&#8217;re Joe-Random-Vermonter, those reasons may involve fiscal matters. If you&#8217;re Joe-Random-Alabaman, those reasons may involve matters of traditional morality.</p>
<p>How can the national party articulate reasons to be GOP in terms appealing to both Vermonter and Alabaman? Well, if Government leaves other institutions to solve some societal problems, it won&#8217;t spend money and it won&#8217;t contradict anyone&#8217;s moral convictions by what it&#8217;s not doing. </p>
<p>The Tea Partiers, like Perotistas, Reaganites before them, primarily advocate smaller government. It might make sense for the GOP to cultivate leaders that can articulate why this is better than the road to serfdom.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Quotes of the day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Quotes of the day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is almost irrelevant at this point. What’s important is that the alleged party elite begin to grasp the New Republican Order and decide they might want to win future elections by backing the correct candidates from the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jabba the Tutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jabba the Tutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I have no problem with moderates in the GOP.”
That makes you part of the problem. Politicians are about shades of gray. That means compromise with evil and accept it. 

The only &quot;moderates&quot; in the GOP that I&#039;ve ever seen are elected officials.  No ordinary people living their lives could come to the kind of positions the &quot;moderates&quot; do, without their heads exploding.

Who is voting for Dede Scozzafava due to her positions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I have no problem with moderates in the GOP.”<br />
That makes you part of the problem. Politicians are about shades of gray. That means compromise with evil and accept it. </p>
<p>The only &#8220;moderates&#8221; in the GOP that I&#8217;ve ever seen are elected officials.  No ordinary people living their lives could come to the kind of positions the &#8220;moderates&#8221; do, without their heads exploding.</p>
<p>Who is voting for Dede Scozzafava due to her positions?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter-If after reading and, hopefully, understanding this post you think &lt;em&gt;I&#039;m&lt;/em&gt; part of the problem I have to question your sanity and/or sobriety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter-If after reading and, hopefully, understanding this post you think <em>I&#8217;m</em> part of the problem I have to question your sanity and/or sobriety.</p>
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		<title>By: The Real Story Behind Newt &#38; Dede&#8217;s Breakup &#124; Entertainment</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Real Story Behind Newt &#38; Dede&#8217;s Breakup &#124; Entertainment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter Samuelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Samuelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have no problem with moderates in the GOP.&quot;
That makes you part of the problem. Politicians are about shades of gray. That means compromise with evil and accept it. 

US Citizens have been led down the primrose path that there is no such thing as good and evil for too long. Look at what Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc. have done and then look at the type of government they did it with. That is where the &#039;political compromise&#039; is leading us.

It&#039;s time we grow up and realize that we can&#039;t all play nice. We must call evil what it is and fight it. The murder of innocents is evil. The failure to punish criminals is evil. Taking a person&#039;s property by force of government is evil and they all must be stopped.

If we don&#039;t have enough adults to stop it - the United States of American is already gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have no problem with moderates in the GOP.&#8221;<br />
That makes you part of the problem. Politicians are about shades of gray. That means compromise with evil and accept it. </p>
<p>US Citizens have been led down the primrose path that there is no such thing as good and evil for too long. Look at what Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc. have done and then look at the type of government they did it with. That is where the &#8216;political compromise&#8217; is leading us.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time we grow up and realize that we can&#8217;t all play nice. We must call evil what it is and fight it. The murder of innocents is evil. The failure to punish criminals is evil. Taking a person&#8217;s property by force of government is evil and they all must be stopped.</p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t have enough adults to stop it &#8211; the United States of American is already gone.</p>
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